GW Finally Releases it's Get You By -- Chaos Mortal Army List

[lordfairfax2001]

Looks like GW just released it. Enjoy:

Chaos "Get You By" List

Haven't read it yet, but thought I'd post it before you went out and bought the WD...

[Diosamblet]

it doesn't look that bad. many things went down in price, including characters and knights. But as it stands, I can't use my all cavalry list

[lordfairfax2001]

Looks like you need the following rules, as well:

Rules for Chaos Giant

Rules for Hellcannon of Chaos

Enjoy...as Matt said...not too bad, many points went down, still can have a Daemon Prince (up to level 4 wizard, too), but alas, no all cav list anymore . Wonder how much will change when the "real" book comes out???

[luis the young]

Banner of the Gods …………………………125 points
Friendly units within 12" of the banner become Stubborn.

holly crap, this thing rocks .... not sure why people are complaining so much, other than not being able to take demons, the list looks pretty solid.

[lordfairfax2001]

Banner of the Gods …………………………125 points
Friendly units within 12" of the banner become Stubborn.

holly crap, this thing rocks .... not sure why people are complaining so much, other than not being able to take demons, the list looks pretty solid.

The banner is nasty! And, most of the folks have been complaining about the loss of fluff more than the loss of playability (besides all the models that are now useless if you were hoping to mix and match). The list is basically the old Chaos list (with the Mark of Tzeentch conveying slightly different abilities), but with cheaper units. Correct me if I'm wrong Chaos players, but you're most upset with the lack of creativity when building an army anymore, right?

[Diosamblet]

Mmm we lost many god-specific magic items and banners (bye bye Rapturous... I'm sure Stephan is doing his happy dance right now...), as well as our Chaos lores.

I understand that all cavalry was too much, but I thought it was funny that they made chariots 2 for 1 special, considering that an all chariot list was also something GW wanted to eliminate (and they took away our 2 for 1 goblin chariots!).

Still, with the lowered prices all around, I can still take my 3 units of knights and small units of marauders (with a role similar to your spear elves, Sam) to fill in my req core. The sad thing is that I can't take my 2 units of marauder horsemen AND my 3 units of knights.

When I get home I'll try to reconstruct my list and see how much the price reduction and limited specials changes my list.

[Diosamblet]

Oh! and the daemonic mount now counts as a regular steed and not monster, since it has only a single wound. Its interesting that Lords can take them for 50 pts, Exalted champions for 40 pts, and Sorcerers for 30 pts!

I think I might take a Lord for LD 9 plus that stubborn banner. That means Immune to Psychology (Slaanesh) AND stubborn on LD 9!

[luis the young]

Holly shit, missed the 2 for one chariots, rofl, oh man... Lord on chariot, 2 champs on chariots, sorcerer on disk, 6 chariots for special, unit of chaos knights, and coupel of units of chaos warhounds. There is youa ll calv list that will destroy whatever it hits

[Diosamblet]

Hounds don't count for minimum core though...

[luis the young]

Hounds don't count for minimum core though...

oh well, get some crappy mimimun size marauders and keep them hidden while their big brothers destroy stuff.

[Diosamblet]

Ok, quick list here:

Lord of Slaanesh 335
Sword of Might, Armour of Damnation, Talisman of Protection. Daemonic Mount

Sorcerer of Chaos 150
Level 2. Chaos Familiar.

Sorcerer of Chaos 135
Level 2. Dispel Scroll

Aspiring Champion of Slaanesh 235
Shield. Barded Chaos Steed. Banner of the Gods.

6 Chosen Knights of Slaanesh 308
War Banner and Musician.

6 Knights of Slaanesh 223
Standardbearer and Musician

6 Knights of Slaanesh 223
Standardbearer and Musician

6 Marauder Horsemen 102
Flails and Throwing axes. Musician

5 Warhounds 30

5 Warhounds 30

5 Warhounds 30

10 Marauders 66
Flails. Musician.

10 Marauders 66
Flails. Musician.

10 Marauders 66
Flails. Musician.

Total: 1999

Compare to my last list:
Sorceror Lord
BSB

6 Chosen with Rapturous
2x 6 Knights

2x 5 Horsemen

3x 5 Warhounds

7 Furies

2 Slaanesh-marked chaos spawn

[luis the young]

LOL, you getting like twice the ammount of guys in the army now, i just wish that GW wouldve done a good job witht he O&G codex, its pretty damn weak when you place it next to the high elf or vc books.

[scurrdi]

I dunno, the orcs are still tough. I'm pretty upset that GW is trending away from making all cav. forces. This basically means that Kislev are gonna be out for a long while.

Otherwise it looks like Matt's list still has a pretty potent and cav. heavy army. I like it.

[luis the young]

orcs got owned on the new codex, goblins are way to expensive now, no more 2 for 1 wolf chariots, or 2 for 1 goblin characters, upgrade to big'uns way to expensive, animosity is worst now, the miscast table is even more disgusting. This vs the upgrades that VC and HE got is nothing, evrything in the VC and HE book got a HUGE boost, O&G got crap.

[Diosamblet]

I disagree on the animosity and miscast being worse. Animosity has been simplified, which is good, and there's no longer a chance you'll charge or shoot at your own guys! The miscast table went from being on a D6 to 2D6.

Orcs got better and cheaper (better choppa), but big'uns have never been a good deal (now they are worse its true). Goblins definitely got shafted, what with being more expensive and not being able to fully use the Waagh! rules.