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Post by King Hiss on Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:56 pm

A i want to start playing 40k but im between the orks or space wolves id like to hear wat u guys have to say about the 2 armies i dnt really care about which army is better, I just want to know what type of specail abilitys they get and wat tactis they can use, i know theres no magic in the game but there is something similar so wat do the orks got and wat do the space wolves got thats wat i want to know b4 i use the lil money i got.
Thanks for any and all that tell me about the 2 armies

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Post by zephel on Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:45 am

Space wolves are top tier and they have some pretty BS abilits, one of them is jaws of the world wolf which is you make straight line in any direction with the ruler ( i think 36 inchs) and everything that line touches gets damaged. Also, they have an ability to cancel out other psychic users on a 3+ ( which is why i hate them since i play eldar)

ORks i know have a psyker that has random abilities depending on what you roll. so depending what you roll on a d6 will dpened on what the ability will be. Orks are random but they are fun (and funny) to play with. but i don't have any real playing experince, i'm telling you from what i've heard and seen.
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Post by KingdomCome on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:43 am

Orks are a totally random and fun army. Like fantasy , they rely on superior numbers to overwhelm the opposition. They have nasty close combat and decent shooting from limited units. Their psychic abilities are a bit meh. Only reason for that is they have totally random powers every turn. Most are good, but you never seem to get exactly what you need.
Space wolves are a good all around army. Shooting, close combat, and psychic powers are all decent. Combine with marine stats and they are usually a good army.
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Post by KingdomCome on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:46 am

The tiers concept is bs. Give a noob a top "tier" army and give a vet a bottom "tier" army. Lemme know how that goes.
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Post by King Hiss on Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:22 pm

lol thanks guys and the tier thing doesnt matter to me, for the simple reason that im new to the game and havent even read the rules lol there for just like in fantasy the army u use makes no differecnse unless u know how to use it.

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Post by The Eldar Guy on Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:27 pm

KingdomCome wrote:The tiers concept is bs. Give a noob a top "tier" army and give a vet a bottom "tier" army. Lemme know how that goes.

Give a vet a top tier army and give a vet a bottom tier army and let me know how that goes.
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Post by KingdomCome on Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:47 pm

All armies can compete in 40k. Some are better equipped than others because they are newer, but if skill levels are equal it only comes down to dice. So give to vets of equal skills well built armies, and dice will be the only deciding factors. So once again. Tiers are bullshit.
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Post by Kyle on Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:56 pm

The Eldar Guy wrote:
KingdomCome wrote:The tiers concept is bs. Give a noob a top "tier" army and give a vet a bottom "tier" army. Lemme know how that goes.

Give a vet a top tier army and give a vet a bottom tier army and let me know how that goes.

And? The Vet will win in both instances
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Post by zephel on Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:06 pm

did not mean to start this argument lol.
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Post by KingdomCome on Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:49 pm

@Kyle: I think that's my point. So.... yes?

@zephel: It's not an argument. At least not on my end. This is the type of discussion that helps everybody. A lot of gamers fall into misconceptions and just start firing off "e-terms" like they're gospel. For example space wolves. I think they're an excellent codex that has flexibility and tons of options. Does it mean a SW army is automatically going to win when it hits the table? Not at all. Hiss said it best; its all about the general. A lot can be theorized in a vaccum, but there are too many variables to claim anything as an absolute in 40k.
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Post by ShadowMaster on Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:17 pm

Kyle wrote:
The Eldar Guy wrote:
KingdomCome wrote:The tiers concept is bs. Give a noob a top "tier" army and give a vet a bottom "tier" army. Lemme know how that goes.

Give a vet a top tier army and give a vet a bottom tier army and let me know how that goes.

And? The Vet will win in both instances

LOL. Well put Kyle.
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Re: A guys im one of the WHF plalys nd im wanting to start a 40k army

Post by King Hiss on Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:51 pm

lol a guys i went to sunshine and got the AoBR to start i like both the SW nd the Orks but it seems to me that the ork army works best with a horde type mentalty like in fanatasy by out numbering while the SW are a more organized army and it for some reason reminds me of he-man lol which is one of my all time fav cartoons, so for learning and starting im gonna use the less random and more easy to learn army and if i get really into the game then i while get a second army being the orks, by the way dont the SW and SM have the same things i looked at almost all the codexs today and must say that i still like the SW and the orks da most how ever there was one thing that got my attention which was in the SM they got some kinda thundercannon i like the sound of dat its heavy support and the SW dont have that but wat ever lol
But thank you guys ill be looking for some gaming soon lol

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Post by chef xenos on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:34 pm

i like the thunderfire cannon
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Re: A guys im one of the WHF plalys nd im wanting to start a 40k army

Post by King Hiss on Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:14 am

yea it sounded pretty kool but its the only thing that really differed and the physik stuff thats it

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Post by KingdomCome on Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:24 am

Well c:sm isn't really a psychic codex. They have null zone as their signature power that every other marine codex wishes it had, but not really much else must have abilities. The thunder cannon is kinda cool, bit fragile as hell.
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Post by jspyd3rx on Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:54 am

I love thunderfire cannons. Really only work if you have higher level threat in the enemy's face. Drop podding ironclads or sternguard with Lysander would definitely take the heat off of thunderfire cannons.
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Post by Darth Octavious on Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:20 pm

I love the Thunderrire Cannon, in my Land Raider Achilles!!!
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Re: A guys im one of the WHF plalys nd im wanting to start a 40k army

Post by dozer on Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:23 pm

King Hiss, do you have a copy of the list you played yesterday against me? I was trying to recreate it, but from what I remembered I came up about 300 points short from 2,000.
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Re: A guys im one of the WHF plalys nd im wanting to start a 40k army

Post by King Hiss on Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:31 pm

yea i got a copy ill send it 2 you when i get a chance

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Post by King Hiss on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:23 pm

dozer did you get the list i sent it to u

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