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Post by Hurricane on Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:29 am

I know that alot of people have not been using any type air power with their tournament lists. First off, I want to know why? No models or don't think that they are good enough for the amount of points they take? Here is my opinion.First off, I have used limited air in both of my tournament lists and have placed 2nd and 1st in the last two. I think the 135 pts (if I remember the point cost correctly) is well worth it. Most people I have played haven't even brought any anti-aircraft guns. The first tournament, my planes rocked. The second tournament, not as much but I feel that the threat of air power causes the other player to play differently and more conservatively. In the back of their minds, they are always thinking about my 109's. It they are always worried about making sure their guys are spread out enough. So, to me with the success that I have had, I feel they are well worth the points. What's everyone else think??
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Post by scurrdi on Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:13 pm

I agree completely with you on this one.

I always take limited airpower. As the Cossacks don't have much in the way of anti-vechicle I've found that the air support I have has proven time and time again it's useful-ness.

Whenever I face someone with Anti-Air guns I usually rely on my mortar teams or machine gun teams to take them out early on in the game. 90% of the anti-air weaponary your going to see only has a 5+ save unless your taking the big guns, but no one takes those to tournaments since you can't guarantee your opponent using aircraft and then all those points are wasted.

I've found them to be at the least useful and at the best wonderfully effective, I've even knocked out a Tiger with my aircraft before!

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Post by Warlord Solskritt on Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:50 pm

Bah! my infantry have no need for air support!
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Post by Grombart on Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:53 am

I'm going to try air power more. But the times I've used it I've had little success with it, but I normally roll like crap.
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Post by rokassan on Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:21 pm

Air Power is as good as artillery. I know that Eric and have pummeled each other with air power. It forces you to be more cautious with your formations and makes you spend points on air defense. It can knock out the heaviest tanks as well. I think people dont use it because they think one dimensional. Id love it if I brought air support and my opponent didnt bring any air defense.

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Post by Warlord Solskritt on Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:59 pm

Rokassan wrote:... Id love it if I brought air support and my opponent didn't bring any air defense.

I've been on the receiving end of aircraft with no anti-air and I found that the germans' ability to spread out 6 inches is usually enough to almost completely negate the airpower. I can see aircraft being useful against mechanized infantry and tanks but not standard infantry. Just my 2 cents though.
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Post by scurrdi on Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:46 pm

Well I've found the airpower to be useful. It takes out tanks and enemy artillery and it forces units to be pinned, which is always nice especially if my Cossacks are moving in, less fire is good!

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Post by luis the young on Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:41 am

Well, i tried airpower and it totally sucked nuts, in all 3 games i played with it, i killed a total of 85 points, is to unreliable and as i Play russians i get 2 turns of use out of it before im to close to call it in. I rather take artillery all the time, and since i can attach AA guns to my artillery i welcome any aircraft to get close to them. Airpower was VERy disapointing.
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Post by rokassan on Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:26 am

Ill use my HS-129's in your artillery and we'll see how much it sucks. Look up the Hs-129 its a badass tank buster.

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Post by luis the young on Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:00 pm

I get 2 37mm aa guns for 45 points, AND i can get a squad of 37 mm AA guns with 4 guns for like 150 points.... bring it flyboy.
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Post by Abaddon on Thu May 01, 2008 11:07 pm

I think the problem with the Russians is that most other armies spread thier units enough not to make the Air support worth it. I have to aggree here with Luis. Oh God I am going to hell for actually agreeing with the Commi lover.

I have used Air support a couple of times and it has not been worth it. For the points I am using on the air support i rather get flamers or pioneers.
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Post by luis the young on Fri May 02, 2008 8:30 am

Im glad you are starting to see the light that is communism Javi, soon we will sit over a bottle of vodka and fondly remember the golden years of Stalin.

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Post by rokassan on Fri May 02, 2008 8:52 am

Well my airpower helped me win the tournament.

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Post by luis the young on Fri May 02, 2008 9:13 am

Rokassan wrote:Well my airpower helped me win the tournament.

Only because i wasnt there, if not i wouldve shot them down like the flying piece of crap that they are, italians dont make soldiers or planes...they make pasta and mobsters!

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Post by rokassan on Fri May 02, 2008 9:16 am

Russians make slave labor and porn stars\prostitutes.

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Post by luis the young on Fri May 02, 2008 9:32 am

Thats an awsoen combo right there ... slave labor porn stars ! and this present day russsian women are HOT !!

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Post by scurrdi on Fri May 02, 2008 12:32 pm

I really like air support. Particularly for my army which doesn't have alot of anti-tank support available, the air support can really help with that.

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Post by Hurricane on Fri May 02, 2008 2:56 pm

Air support is a must, although the last couple of games for me have not been as effective.
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Post by Ovich on Tue May 06, 2008 1:06 am

I don't know the answer to this.......








No really.. I DONT know the answer to this. !!!

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Post by rokassan on Tue May 06, 2008 9:22 am

It helped me smash the Bolshevic tank hoards. Coupled with Italian bravery I was unstoppable. I feel a new Roman Empire rising. Who wants to be sex pope?

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Post by Grombart on Tue May 06, 2008 10:52 am

I dunno. It seems that in some games air power is super decisive, and in other games it's a waste of points. Seems to be a 50/50 kind of thing. If you can get anti-air for cheaper you may want to go that way. At least you can use it against ground troops.
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