Skaven vs. everyone else megabattle?

Dotn see a prob with special characters. How about this, only ONE lord lvl named character allowed per side, this will represent a great leader putting together a great Crusade to stop the Skaven horde, the rest of the armies can bring one special character of Heroe lvl, this will represent the different countries sending an army under the command of one of their heroes.

Cool.

More questions though. Do the 4 armies count as 1 8000 pts army as far as force composition? or do they count as 4 separate 2000 pts armies?

Also, in regards to generalship can puny empire soldiers use the leadership of a chaos lord ?

Also, do we want to mix evil and good on the side fighting the skaven? IF we're trying to be fluffly... with the whole underempire thing.. would the high elves EVER align with Chaos ? NO.

If we use Legendary Battle rules -

Common Chaos Allies (fight together and are friends, can flee through)
Ogres
O&G
Skaven (not an option this time)

Occational Allies (not friendly, can't flee through)
TK
VC
DE
Lizards

Regardless
Heros from one group can not join another and each uses their own General and BSB

Leg Battles also gets into Monstrous Hordes and such (ie: UNIT of Chaos Chariots) - it may be outside the scope of what we want to do.

The Skaven care not for the surface dwellers and which God they worship, chaos warriors, high elf nobles, empire knights, all must obey the Great Horned Ones' commands or fall beneath their paws!

Whith Bill playing Chaos is a bit tricky, one way to explain Chaos precense in the battlefield is that a Marauding Chaos warband found itself caught in the battle, the chaos lord in charge of the warband send an emmisary to the Skaven to join forces, the Skaven returned the envoy back carrying a deadly plague that killed half of the Chaos lords' warband, the Chaos lord furious at this treachery has decided to teach the ratmen that incurring the wrath of a Lord fo Chaos can be fatal.

I think that the Empire should be the one leading the battle, Empire lands are the ones always gettign assaulted the most, The Emperor himself can be leadign the army ! The Emperor was informed of the maraudign band of chaos worshipers on his lands, but his scouts have informed him that the Chaos lord in charge has been slaugtherign any skaven band he finds in his way, the Emperor has decided that he should deal with the much greater threat of the Skaven,the more the two evil forces kill of each other means that less empire soldiers he will have to bury at the end of the campaing.

what do you guys think ?

luis the young wrote:Don't see a prob with special characters. How about this, only ONE lord lvl named character allowed per side, this will represent a great leader putting together a great Crusade to stop the Skaven horde, the rest of the armies can bring one special character of Heroe lvl, this will represent the different countries sending an army under the command of one of their heroes.

So each 2000 point army can have a non-named lord level, with each side having only one named character, i.e. Karl Franz (Tyrion would be more appropriate, though... ).

Ovich wrote:Also, in regards to generalship can puny empire soldiers use the leadership of a chaos lord ?

I like the idea of having the Empire "in charge," though it does present some fluff issues with Chaos in the mix. At the end of the day, it's about having a fun game, though. So, each army can use either it's own General's leadership, or the "Supreme Commander's" leadership, but characters may only join units from their specific army/army list (i.e., if two Empire players are on one side, they may not mix and match characters between their units during the game).

Ovich wrote:More questions though. Do the 4 armies count as 1 8000 pts army as far as force composition? or do they count as 4 separate 2000 pts armies?

We are following normal army comp restrictions for each army, based on Bill's previous post? Where Luis makes 2 2000 point lists (following all the army comp restrictions for a 2000 point list), JC makes 2 2000 point lists and each of the "good guys" makes a single 2000 point list, with one of the generals from each side being made supreme commander of the allied forces for his side?

Ovich wrote:Also, do we want to mix evil and good on the side fighting the skaven? IF we're trying to be fluffly... with the whole underempire thing.. would the high elves EVER align with Chaos ? NO.

If we try to follow all the rules for alliances and mega battles and stay true to all the fluff, we'll be hard pressed to get everyone on the same side of the table and will give the all Skaven army a huge advantage, so we should stay very flexible on this one...

Kill them all! Let Sigmar sort them out!!!

I got the idea of a Big Crusade from a forgotten realms book called "Crusade" the third part on the Horse Lords trilogy, the King of Cormir (?) leads a crusade of barely working allies vs a HUGE horde of maraudign horsemen ( mongol looking guys ) It was an alliance of Elves, several human factions and Zenthil Keep( one of the most evil organizations in the Forgotem realms world) . They all agreed to work together because the Barbarian horsemen horde ( numbering arround 80 thousand or so ) was destroying and pillaging evrything in its path.

luis the young wrote:I got the idea of a Big Crusade from a forgotten realms book called "Crusade" the third part on the Horse Lords trilogy, the King of Cormir (?) leads a crusade of barely working allies vs a HUGE horde of maraudign horsemen ( mongol looking guys ) It was an alliance of Elves, several human factions and Zenthil Keep( one of the most evil organizations in the Forgotem realms world) . They all agreed to work together because the Barbarian horsemen horde ( numbering arround 80 thousand or so ) was destroying and pillaging evrything in its path.

Sounds good to me...helps with a little of the fluff...the enemy of my enemy is my friend...at least until I've killed the enemy...works for me.

Plus the High Elves are really keen on checking out the new fad going around among the Slaanesh worshipers, amirite?

Diosamblet wrote:Plus the High Elves are really keen on checking out the new fad going around among the Slaanesh worshipers, amirite?

Darn...figured us out...just don't tell the Swordmasters...they're not big on those cults!

I actually read that book Luis...

The difference is that I was 16 years old and found it an immature read.

Ovich wrote:I actually read that book Luis...

The difference is that I was 16 years old and found it an immature read.

Well, read it again and tell me what you think is one of my fav series

VOTE Archanon for Supreme Commander

ShadowMaster wrote:VOTE Archanon for Supreme Commander

Lol, yeah, that would go GREAT with the rest of the forces i can just imagine Archaons' commands.
" you men of the empire, charge in ordered formation that battery of Warp Lighitng cannons, you elven riders enagage that block of spearmen..."

Grimgor then. I'm sure he has better people skills than Archaon!