Answer meh!

Ok, so i played Bill ( the Bill that actually rules his house and gets to play ) it was TKs vs Chaos
and a couple of questions came up.

1- Tomb King Curse- it says that evry unit responsible for the death of the King has to take a LD test and if failed they get D6 hits randomized as shooting. He had his Chaos Lord joined to his unit of Chaos knights and the chaos knights killed the king in combat, since the Lord is not bought with the unit but joined it during the game, will there be TWO different tests to take, or just one test for the whole Chaos knight/lord unit ?

2- This one i was kinda confused from the rule book ( i gotta read it one of this days ) i charged his unit on the rear and his Lord was out of combat because he was Way off to the side, my unit wasnt big enough to cover evryone for max# of models. I won combat and the question came from what are the options at this time; do either of us have to slide the lines so we can again get max ammount of models in combat ? Reason why it was important was because by slyding the lines it brought his chaos lord in contact with my unit and then he pretty much whiped the unit, this obviously had a HUGE effect since he was able to gain mad VPs from that combat. What i read from the rulebook was that the victor can make reform changes on his unit, but didnt see anythign about the looser being able to move his characters arround.

Thanks!

1- It's still a single unit. However, if the unit of knights is below 5 models, you have to distribute the hits from the tomb king's curse evenly and then randomize leftover hits (ie. if there's 3 knights + lord, and you got 5 hits, each model gets hit once and the extra hit is randomized)

2. If your unit is narrower than the knights, its perfectly legal to avoid his character as long as you are still maximizing the number of combatants. If Bill wins the combat, he can do 2 maneouvers: turn his knights around so that he's facing your unit, or increase his frontage to bring more of his dudes to the fight. I assume his was a long file of knights with the character on one end; in that case neither maneuver will bring his character into the fight, but he is free to move any characters and champions within his units, even in CC, during his rest of movements phase.

Thanxs Matt.

1 - ok, so from what i understand is that the chaos lord/chaos knight unit combo only has to take ONE ld test, not a ld test for the knights and one for the chaos lord. thanxs

2- the unit at first was long enough where his lord was out of combat, but i killed a couple of guys and the lien shrank, that wouldve been able to bring the lord into contact by shifting the line to maximise number of models.
So only the victor is allowed to move his heroes/champs arround or can the looser also do it ? lets say the lien was long enough that the lord was still out and he lost combat, even though he lost, he could still move his lord within the unit to engage my guys ?

No you can only do the free maneuvers if you win combat

The winner may reform and may only move unit champs/command section to the front row (if he wins and can turn the unit to face because he won, so he no longer counts as being flanked, if the unit was flanked in the first place). The unit champs may not move within the front row, once the unit is engaged, so if your champ is out of combat for some reason, he cannot move into combat like an IC until enough models are killed that he must slide over because not enough rank and file are left.

Actually Sam, unit champions may move during the rest of movements phase within the unit just like normal characters.

That TK is one nasty dude - Kill him and he still hits your back!

Thanks for the info guys - it looks like we guessed correctly for just about every question that came up.

For the record - victory to Luis and the TK

DESTROYER OF ETERNITIES !!!

I was actually thinking of a cool setup for the Tomb King, give him the cloak of Dunes ( can fly ) Then Scorpion Armor ( he can only take a max of 1 wound from combat res ) then the Spear of Antarchak ( evry wound he deals, he gets a wound back )

Pretty much fly him agains a big unit and he can tie that unit forever.

Is a spear like a lance in that you can't use it after the charge?

Ovich wrote:Is a spear like a lance in that you can't use it after the charge?

nope , is just a spear, like any other spear, you can use it in regular combat, he's not mounted, so he doesnt get the +1 fo rcharging, but he's allready strg 5